blueyeddevil: A rose by any other name would have probably been flushed...

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@ 2008-04-08 12:40:00

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A rose by any other name would have probably been flushed...
It's funny, but we fought back and forth over a boy's name for months. We had come close to agreeing on something when we found out that my son has a vagina. So we had to start from scratch again with the name.

hypoxia's daughter is named Raven, and she wanted something that somehow went along with that moniker in some way. We had joked that the boy's name would have to be Rantin, since we would then have Rantin and Raven. And now I'll wait a moment for thosquanta to catch his breath after going off about how stupid puns are...

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Okay, so anyway; there really aren't any other birds that make for great names which would compliment "Raven." So I had to come up with a different angle. It came to me when I was on the toilet last night - as do most of my great revelations. It's amazing how much thinking you can get done after a heavy pasta supper. A name occurred to me that was beautiful, has great literary roots and isn't something you hear a lot these days.

I wiped, pulled up my pants and shot an email to my wife that simply said;

"Prophet!" said I, "thing of evil! — prophet still, if bird or devil!
By that Heaven that bends above us — by that God we both adore —
Tell this soul with sorrow laden if, within the distant Aidenn,
It shall clasp a sainted maiden whom the angels name Lenore —
Clasp a rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenore."
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore."

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	thosquanta 2008-04-08 05:35 pm UTC (link)
	i always liked the name Lenore. i also kinda liked that pun. i'm getting weak in my old age. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	blueyeddevil 2008-04-08 06:11 pm UTC (link)
	Not weak. Discerning. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	skywayman 2008-04-08 07:13 pm UTC (link)
	I though you were going to name her "Nevermore" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	hypoxia 2008-04-08 10:45 pm UTC (link)
	That was my very first thought. I received the same quote, sans any bolding or italicizing, so it took me a moment. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Dirgey-good vnsplshr 2008-04-08 05:35 pm UTC (link)
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	vnsplshr 2008-04-08 05:36 pm UTC (link)
	I just read the latest comic last week. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	blueyeddevil 2008-04-08 06:02 pm UTC (link)
	And our daughter will, most likely, own every clothing item associated with that comic. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	laserbitch 2008-04-08 10:05 pm UTC (link)
	OMG YES! WOO! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	eqe 2008-04-08 05:38 pm UTC (link)
	I know one Lenore (she's in her 30s) and only y'all's Raven (modulo goth club names, which I don't count.) Raven is about 400th on the Social Security Administration's baby names list, while Lenore fell off the top 1000 in 1973 after peaking at 480th in 1952. The quote is excellent. (Reply to this)(Thread)

blueyeddevil
2008-04-08 06:07 pm UTC (link)

I'm actually surprised Raven is so far down on the list.

I'm sick of the name "Alexis." Working in a mall I see a lot of Hausfraus and their bratty kids. A lot of girls are named Alexis. A lot of boys seem to be named Hunter or Logan (which is my 4 year old nephew's name, unfortunately).

As George Carlin might say, "Whatever happened to Vinnie, Petey and Paulie! 9 times out of 10 they would kick the asses of Tim, Todd and Kyle!!! You need a real man's name, like...Chuck Steak!"

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	ravenlily13 2008-04-08 06:05 pm UTC (link)
	what an awesome name. fucking awesome. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	blueyeddevil 2008-04-08 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I'm going to have to post more about the ideas I come up with on the shitter. Some of them are pretty damn amazing. One night, after a couple bowls of my smoky vegetarian chile, I completely reconfigured the American tax codes in my head. Unfortunately, I never wrote any of it down. :/ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	spitfire_sam 2008-04-08 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	i think Lenore is a great name. very classy. and also kind of victorian in that awesome way. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	blueyeddevil 2008-04-08 06:10 pm UTC (link)
	It won't seem so classy when she's flinging her poo at us from across the room, methinks. :/ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	spitfire_sam 2008-04-08 06:13 pm UTC (link)
	poo fetish aside, i think it'll grow with her in a way Tammie, Candie and Britttttniiiiie won't. puke man i'm so glad i got the name i got and none of those "eeee" ending names so prevalent amongst my peer group. 1980-1986 was just the years of naming your kids to ensure they turn out as dumb as fucking possible. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	blueyeddevil 2008-04-08 06:21 pm UTC (link)
	I was talking about hypoxia. It hasn't been fun going through life with one of the most popular names from the Seventies. Growing up there were always other Chris' around, hence why I was always called Christopher. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	manna_panna 2008-04-08 06:27 pm UTC (link)
	Brilliant. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	blueyeddevil 2008-04-08 06:34 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I get that a lot. ;P (Reply to this)(Parent)

	alexlucard.myopenid.com 2008-04-08 06:31 pm UTC (link)
	I like it. Pikachu is a much better name though. :-P (Reply to this)(Thread)

	blueyeddevil 2008-04-08 06:34 pm UTC (link)
	The South Park episode about Pikachu was on the other night and I thought of you. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	alexlucard.myopenid.com 2008-04-08 08:44 pm UTC (link)
	They don't sodomize Pikachu do they? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

blueyeddevil
2008-04-08 09:03 pm UTC (link)

No, but he was thrown to the ground and stomped on. The whole episode revolved on the Japanese trying to subvert American culture and form a takeover through completely nonsensical cartoons where the mouths never matched what the subjects were saying and a marketing campaign that brainwashed kids into thinking they had to own every toy in the line. When people started catching on to the ploy the Japanese laughed off the conspiracy fears and noted that there was no way they could ever take over a country full of men with such enormous penises. The Japanese admitted to being inferior due to their own small penises. This pacified the Americans and the Japs went about their takeover plans until the American parents decided to pretend they really liked the toys and cartoons which meant (to the kids) it just wasn't cool anymore. So Japan lost in its efforts.

The Enb.

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	alexlucard.myopenid.com 2008-04-08 11:01 pm UTC (link)
	Oh. I remember that. That was from like Season 2-3 wasn't it? Panchinko-mon or whatever. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lexinatrix 2008-04-08 06:37 pm UTC (link)
	It's a unique name, and doesn't lend itself to particularly bad playground rhyming taunts. Boring Lenore, perhaps... which lacks teeth. I grew up with an unusual name myself (Alexandra), and it was nice to grow into my name, unlike the Stacy/Katie/Traci/Lacey girls with whom I went to school. (Reply to this)(Thread)

blueyeddevil
2008-04-08 06:56 pm UTC (link)

I dealt with "Piss Poddy" and "Christopher Roddy, pants full of poddy!" for years. So it just doesn't compare.

Alexandra would certainly be a tough one. All I can think of is "Alexandra Handjob," since that rolls off the tongue pretty well (aheh), but I believe there would have to be a reputation preceding the name and that doesn't appear to be the case.

Did you actually go by Alexandra? No one ever shortened it to Alex, Lex, Lexi or....Zandra?

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lexinatrix
2008-04-08 07:59 pm UTC (link)

My grandmother, one guy who wanted to date me and telemarketers are the only people who call me Alexandra. My family calls me Alex, my friends call me Lex.

There was only one other girl named Alexandra I encountered growing up. She insisted on being called Alexandra, which was fine by me. There was only one boy-Alex in my class, too.

Now there are eleventy million boys under the age of 15 named Alex, and apparently they are all evil kids because their mothers are always yelling at them in stores... which sorta freaks me out because it takes me a moment to realize they aren't yelling at me.

The only teasing I received about my name as a kid was "Alex is a boy's name!" and I would reply, "I can punch like a boy, too."

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blueyeddevil
2008-04-08 08:21 pm UTC (link)

I became so used to hearing my name yelled out when I was growing up that I stopped acknowledging it. This would frustrate my Mother at times. She would take me to the mall and leave me in the arcade while she went shopping. Instead of actaully walking into the arcade to retrieve me, she would yell for me at the entrance. "Christopher. Christopher! CHRISTOPHER!" I didn't respond. So she would add, "HEY YOU LITTLE SHIT!" and that would get my attention.

I rather like the name Alexandra. I don't understand why more people don't call you that.

My stipulation for having a girl was that the name couldn't be shortened into a boy's nickname, such as Alex or Sam or...Earl. My sister has already commented, "Are we supposed to call her Lenny?" to which I replied, "No, you're supposed to call her Lenore." Are we so lazy as a culture that it's become impossible for us to use full names? Just getting people to call me Christopher instead of "Chris" can be a chore. I'm usually not a dick about it, but still. Chris isn't my name. Neither is Dick. And don't call me Shirley.

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lexinatrix
2008-04-08 08:40 pm UTC (link)

My mother doesn't answer to "Mom" for similar reasons to yours. I called her by a childhood nickname when we were in public so she'd answer.

Yes, we are most definitely a culture so lazy it can't use full names. I would have been perfectly fine being called Alexandra (except for those few months when I was 5 and insisted on being called Jennifer), but for the fact that our culture hates formality.

Most (American) people cannot pronounce nor spell Alexandra. After having it mangled or confused with Alexandria and Alexander(?), I took pity on the silly adults and said, "Just call me Alex."

My mother originally wanted two kids, both girls, with queen's names that shortened to boy's nicknames. I was the first with Alexandra Elizabeth (after QEII), but then she didn't end up having another child, who would have been Victoria (something). That way she'd have two daughters, Alex and Vic.

Then again, my mother's name is Dierdre, so she at least respected how difficult it can be growing up with a hard to spell name. Lenore has that going for it, as well.

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	rskm1 2008-04-08 11:43 pm UTC (link)
	Lesnore. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lexinatrix 2008-04-09 12:44 am UTC (link)
	Aha, good one! Still, being a snore is pretty tame on the kid-insult continuum. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

rskm1
2008-04-09 05:57 am UTC (link)

Yeah, and it's usually preferable to have a name that's easy to pick on, because the kids will settle on that, rather than digging deeper to find some physical or psychological flaw that you're insecure about instead.

I had to make this one of my specialties growing up, since I had flame-red hair, and the best defense is a devastating counterattack. Okay, so I am a red-headed woodpecker. There are worse birds out there, you yellow-bellied sapsucker.

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	hypoxia 2008-04-10 12:05 am UTC (link)
	Lenore the Snore? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ferrousoxide 2008-04-08 09:14 pm UTC (link)
	Definitely unique. Everyone i know who is "named" Lenore just goes by that because of the comic/Poe/whatever gothy thing. I'm sure they'd all be green with envy if they actually met someone whose real name was Lenore. (Reply to this)

	mskitty23 2008-04-08 09:23 pm UTC (link)
	Yup. Yup. Yup. (Reply to this)

	laserbitch 2008-04-08 10:09 pm UTC (link)
	I very much like the name and like the fact that it's not common. People don't understand why I do NOT want to name my child a common name. If I have to call to my child and other kids turn their heads in response... Well, hell no. I'm sooo happy that Trina (even the dreaded Katrina, which is NOT my name thankyouverymuch) didn't ever really come into popularity. (Reply to this)

	monarchman 2008-04-09 06:22 pm UTC (link)
	Reminds me of Bills ex-wife on King of the Hill. Also, if she gets a bad reputation she might be called "Le Whore". (Reply to this)

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